An Interview with George Callins
( Questions Prepared by Curtis Smith )
Working with Carla is a
very gratifying experience. She is always open to other people's
ideas and doesn't hesitate to incorporate those ideas if they are musically
appropriate. She was very adamant about NOT being a solo artist; that
The Textones were a BAND. The chemistry between Carla and me was so
fluid. If I had the music, she had the lyrics. If I had the
lyrics, she had the music.
I guess my influences ran pretty much parallel with Carla's.
The Beatles , Stones, The Who. Not to mention the old school blues cats.
As for my playing, I guess I would have to say I "borrowed" from
Ronnie Wood (Faces era), Pete Townsend and Chuck Berry. I wasn't capable
of pulling off what one might describe as "flash licks", so I stuck
to my limitations.
Well, sure.
Winter always sticks out in my mind, not to mention his work on Sticky
Fingers. It was like The Rolling Stones became more
"underground" than "pop" oriented.
Unfortunately, no. I remember the first time I went to
London. It was the day of the Hyde Park show. My hotel was
just across the street from there, but the show had ended by the time I got
checked in and realized where I was!
Well, I had worked with
Carla exclusively since 1981. I wasn't really "chosen".
I was just one of the fixtures.you might say.
We played other shows
with Mick. There was at least one in Santa Barbara, one at Slim's in San
Francisco, a couple or three at the Palomino in North Hollywood, and I think
we did a show with Mick at Club Lingerie in Hollywood, but I'm not sure of
that. Also, Mick asked me to join him at McCabe's in Santa Monica along
with Ian McLagen and my friend Carlos Hatem on percussion. We did two
shows a night for two nights and for the last song of the last show, Scot Page
joined in on sax for Can't You Hear Me Knocking.
The rehearsals were
surprisingly painless. The Textones had always had a Stonesy influence,
so Mick fit right in. The only notable story that I can speak of
is that it was difficult to remain a band member and not become one of the
audience. Mick would just take off and you never knew where he was
taking you. I would start to listen instead of concentrating on MY job.
It was great being able
to bond with Mick and hear some of his stories about people he worked with.
Also the playing that was done in the hotel rooms where it was just
"immediate family" was really fun. You know, no pressure, just
pleasure.
Before I go on, I want
to say some things about Saul Davis. He has the most brilliant
ability to put together the right talent with the right material. Case
in point: the cd True Voices which was the first recording Saul and I
co-produced. It was Saul who selected the material we would perform at
the Roxy. It was Saul who selected the players, engineers and crew.
MUCH of the credit for the "incredible recording" goes to Mr. Davis.
My association with Saul goes back to the Textones days. Saul was our
manager, psychiatrist, protector and babysitter! Now, not all the
tracks were used. The opening song for both shows was one Carla and I
co-wrote. The song starts with EVERYBODY hitting the downbeat HARD.
Well this caused a power surge and the multitrack went haywire for a bit, then
finally stabilized about half way through the song, rendering the recording
useless. There were a couple other songs performed which were determined
to be not up to standards. I would also like to point out at this time
Rick Hemmert (drums) and Jesse Sublett (bass) were really on top of
it, that night especially! They laid down a foundation on which the
Parthenon would feel at home.
Carla is the most
determined woman I know. She's got ALOT of balls and yet always
maintains her femininity. I have nothing but the utmost respect for her
talents, as a player, a person and a friend.
Barry produced The Textones first album and since then he has stayed
with the Carla Olson organization as a true ally. We looked at Barry and
if his head was bobbing up and down to a playback, we knew it was a good take.
Saul Davis would sometimes call Barry our Soul Meter.
I just would like to add this:
You know, you asking me about that period of my career makes me remember how much fun it was working with that particular group of people. All of them were talented and I can't remember one incident when anyone's ego EVER got in the way. I really miss them all and am looking forward to being with any or all of them again. Thanks, for asking.
GC